{"id":2371,"date":"2020-08-09T01:00:30","date_gmt":"2020-08-09T01:00:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/urbe.com.ar\/revista\/?p=2371"},"modified":"2024-07-20T17:55:58","modified_gmt":"2024-07-20T17:55:58","slug":"una-charla-de-cafe-y-la-obsesion-por-la-deuda","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/urbe.com.ar\/revista\/una-charla-de-cafe-y-la-obsesion-por-la-deuda\/","title":{"rendered":"Una charla de caf\u00e9 y la obsesi\u00f3n por la deuda"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=\u00bb1&#8243; disabled_on=\u00bbon|on|on\u00bb _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; disabled=\u00bbon\u00bb][et_pb_row _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243;][et_pb_column type=\u00bb4_4&#8243; _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243;][et_pb_text disabled_on=\u00bbon|on|on\u00bb _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; disabled=\u00bbon\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p>Por Juan Manuel Vald\u00e9s | En 2018 mi amigo Manuel Soc\u00edas me presento\u0301 en el Cafe\u0301 Marti\u0301nez de Avenida de Mayo a un joven economista amigo suyo, disci\u0301pulo de Stiglitz, que veni\u0301a al pai\u0301s cada tanto para dar clases. Habi\u0301a lei\u0301do varios de sus arti\u0301culos y ansiaba conocerlo.\n<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=\u00bb1&#8243; disabled_on=\u00bbon|on|off\u00bb _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; background_enable_color=\u00bboff\u00bb width=\u00bb100%\u00bb max_width=\u00bb100%\u00bb custom_padding=\u00bb0px||0px||false|false\u00bb][et_pb_row column_structure=\u00bb2_3,1_3&#8243; use_custom_gutter=\u00bbon\u00bb gutter_width=\u00bb1&#8243; make_equal=\u00bbon\u00bb _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; custom_margin=\u00bb||0%||false|false\u00bb custom_padding=\u00bb0px||1%||false|false\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00bb2_3&#8243; _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; background_image=\u00bbhttps:\/\/urbe.com.ar\/revista\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/fernandez-720.jpg\u00bb][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=\u00bb1_3&#8243; _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; background_enable_image=\u00bboff\u00bb][et_pb_image src=\u00bbhttps:\/\/urbe.com.ar\/revista\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/logo-nota-cuadrado.jpg\u00bb url=\u00bbhttps:\/\/urbe.com.ar\/revista\/\u00bb _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; custom_margin=\u00bb|||3%|false|false\u00bb][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=\u00bb1&#8243; disabled_on=\u00bboff|off|on\u00bb _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; background_enable_color=\u00bboff\u00bb width=\u00bb100%\u00bb max_width=\u00bb100%\u00bb custom_padding=\u00bb0px||0px||false|false\u00bb][et_pb_row use_custom_gutter=\u00bbon\u00bb gutter_width=\u00bb1&#8243; make_equal=\u00bbon\u00bb _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; custom_margin=\u00bb||0%||false|false\u00bb custom_padding=\u00bb0px||1%||false|false\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00bb4_4&#8243; _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; background_enable_image=\u00bboff\u00bb][et_pb_image src=\u00bbhttps:\/\/urbe.com.ar\/revista\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/fernandez-612.jpg\u00bb align=\u00bbcenter\u00bb _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; background_enable_image=\u00bboff\u00bb][\/et_pb_image][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=\u00bb1&#8243; use_custom_gutter=\u00bbon\u00bb specialty=\u00bbon\u00bb padding_top_bottom_link_1=\u00bbfalse\u00bb padding_top_bottom_link_2=\u00bbfalse\u00bb padding_left_right_link_1=\u00bbfalse\u00bb padding_left_right_link_2=\u00bbfalse\u00bb padding_left_2=\u00bb1%\u00bb _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; custom_padding=\u00bb0px||0px|||\u00bb][et_pb_column type=\u00bb2_3&#8243; specialty_columns=\u00bb2&#8243; _builder_version=\u00bb3.25&#8243; custom_padding=\u00bb|||\u00bb custom_padding__hover=\u00bb|||\u00bb][et_pb_row_inner _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; custom_padding=\u00bb0px||0px|||\u00bb][et_pb_column_inner saved_specialty_column_type=\u00bb2_3&#8243; _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243;][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; text_text_color=\u00bb#ffffff\u00bb header_text_color=\u00bb#ffffff\u00bb background_image=\u00bbhttps:\/\/urbe.com.ar\/revista\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/barra-opiniones.jpg\u00bb text_orientation=\u00bbcenter\u00bb]<\/p>\n<h1>Opini\u00f3n<\/h1>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column_inner][\/et_pb_row_inner][et_pb_row_inner _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; background_color=\u00bb#ffffff\u00bb custom_padding=\u00bb0px||0px|||\u00bb][et_pb_column_inner saved_specialty_column_type=\u00bb2_3&#8243; _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243;][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; header_text_align=\u00bbcenter\u00bb header_text_color=\u00bb#009fad\u00bb custom_margin=\u00bb3%|5%|3%|5%|true|true\u00bb custom_padding=\u00bb|10.8%||10.8%|false|true\u00bb]<\/p>\n<h1>Una charla de caf\u00e9 y la obsesi\u00f3n por la deuda<\/h1>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_text _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; text_font=\u00bb||||||||\u00bb text_text_color=\u00bb#009fad\u00bb text_font_size=\u00bb18px\u00bb header_text_align=\u00bbcenter\u00bb header_font_size=\u00bb35px\u00bb text_orientation=\u00bbjustified\u00bb custom_margin=\u00bb0.3%|5%|4%|5%|false|true\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p>Por <b>Juan Manuel Vald\u00e9s<\/b><br \/>\n09\/08\/2020<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=\u00bbhttps:\/\/urbe.com.ar\/revista\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/07\/separador-opinion.png\u00bb _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text disabled_on=\u00bbon|on|on\u00bb _builder_version=\u00bb4.4.8&#8243; text_font=\u00bb|600|||||||\u00bb text_text_color=\u00bb#009fad\u00bb text_font_size=\u00bb18px\u00bb header_text_align=\u00bbcenter\u00bb header_font_size=\u00bb35px\u00bb text_orientation=\u00bbjustified\u00bb custom_margin=\u00bb0.4%|5%|0.4%|5%|true|true\u00bb disabled=\u00bbon\u00bb]<\/p>\n<p>Fabi\u00e1n G\u00f3mez, artista cordob\u00e9s, es conocido popularmente a trav\u00e9s de su personaje \u201cPi\u00f1\u00f3n Fijo\u201d.  Vers\u00e1til y din\u00e1mico, tiene una extensa discograf\u00eda, ha conducido ciclos televisivos y fue reconocido con diferentes premios. 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Habi\u0301a lei\u0301do varios de sus arti\u0301culos y ansiaba conocerlo.\n<\/p>\n<p>Durante tres horas me explico\u0301 su plan para renegociar la deuda. Me relat\u00f3 su frustraci\u00f3n de 2016, cuando el bloque peronista del Senado conducido por el poliamoroso Miguel Pichetto le hab\u00eda solicitado asesoramiento ante el acuerdo del gobierno de Macri con los fondos buitre. Sus propuestas fueron deso\u00eddas por la voluntad acuerdista de entonces, que prefirieron acompa\u00f1ar a libro cerrado las exigencias de Paul Singer y someter a la Argentina a demandas de imposible cumplimiento, mientras se fijaba un grave precedente para todos los pa\u00edses que entraran en bancarrota soberana. Stiglitz y \u00e9l se pronunciaron sobre esto con un art\u00edculo en el New York Times.\n<\/p>\n<p>La renegociaci\u00f3n de la deuda era su obsesio\u0301n. Por primera vez escuch\u00e9 nombrar la palabra \u201creperfilamiento\u201d para referirse al cambio de los plazos de vencimientos. Era fundamental alterar ese cronograma, al mismo tiempo deb\u00edamos ser estrictos en la legislacio\u0301n bajo la cual se emitiera cada ti\u0301tulo. Hablaba con pasio\u0301n, sin detenerse y recalcaba su voluntad de conocer al pro\u0301ximo presidente peronista para llevarle su propuesta. Sosteni\u0301a que no ten\u00edamos margen de error para esta oportunidad.\n <\/p>\n<p>Me emociono cada vez que pienso en ese Guzma\u0301n, tambie\u0301n en el Alberto que pude conocer antes de que los destinos de ambos se cruzaran en una partida tan difi\u0301cil para nuestra Patria. Tambi\u00e9n \u00e9l era capaz de estar durante horas explicando su vocaci\u00f3n de sacar a la Argentina del pozo en el que estaba. Tanto Alberto como Guzm\u00e1n hoy se dedican a honrar las convicciones y compromisos que asumieron antes de llegar al gobierno.\n<\/p>\n<p>Pienso tambie\u0301n en la inteligencia poli\u0301tica de Cristina al momento de formar este frente poli\u0301tico que puede moverse con principios claros, sin claudicar, pero tambie\u0301n asumir los retos con pragmatismo. Es inmenso el dan\u0303o recibido y costara\u0301 mucho tiempo superarlo. No hablamos de reparar, porque lo que necesitamos es construir algo nuevo.\n<\/p>\n<p>Un importante sector del poder econ\u00f3mico y comunicadores afines quisieron imponer la profec\u00eda autocumplida del fracaso. A todos ellos, por ahora y con humildad, Guzm\u00e1n les hizo llegar un tapabocas. 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